Listen now (42 mins) | "Whenever I work with companies, I always challenge the leaders and the managers to rethink what they are paying the people for … are you paying them to stare at the screen from nine to five or are you paying them to actually generate outcomes?" In this episode, Adam talks to Oskar Kawecki, the first SAFe Practice Consultant-T (SPCT) in Poland, about the state of business agility adoption in Eastern Europe.